Performance questions

Hi;

Got a couple of performance questions.

1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
hits are fast. Why?

2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
ideas why it's slow?

3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
details at all. How can I get that in there too?

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htmHi Dave,

Regarding on the question you mentioned, here are some of my understanding:

1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
hits are fast. Why?
==========================
How did you precompile your web application, full mode(non-updatable) or
partial mode(updatable)? For partial precompile, the ASP.NET runtime still
need to do a slim precompile to merge the aspx and the class in the
pregenerated assembly. Also, even if you fully precompile the site, you
should still take the JIT compile into account.

2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
ideas why it's slow?
==============================
This seems a bit unexpected. Can you repro the behavior through a very
simple forms authentication secured web project?

3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
details at all. How can I get that in there too?
============================

..NET framework 2.0 does provide means for you to do redirection between
"Diagnostics Trace" and ASP.NET Trace. Here is a good web article mentioned
the steps to do so:

#Tracing Enhancements in ASP.NET 2.0
http://www.extremeexperts.com/Net/A...sinASPNET2.aspx
Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Hi;

1) I use WebDeployment and have it set to "NOT allow to be updatable",
"merge all pages and control outputs to a single assembly", APTCA. Should
this take time to run the first time? And if so, is there a way in IIS to
tell it to load and JIT compile everything?

2) I will try to create a sample.

3) perfect - thanks

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi Dave,
>
Regarding on the question you mentioned, here are some of my understanding:
>
1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
hits are fast. Why?
==========================
How did you precompile your web application, full mode(non-updatable) or
partial mode(updatable)? For partial precompile, the ASP.NET runtime still
need to do a slim precompile to merge the aspx and the class in the
pregenerated assembly. Also, even if you fully precompile the site, you
should still take the JIT compile into account.
>
>
2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
ideas why it's slow?
==============================
This seems a bit unexpected. Can you repro the behavior through a very
simple forms authentication secured web project?
>
>
>
3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
details at all. How can I get that in there too?
============================
>
.NET framework 2.0 does provide means for you to do redirection between
"Diagnostics Trace" and ASP.NET Trace. Here is a good web article mentioned
the steps to do so:
>
#Tracing Enhancements in ASP.NET 2.0
http://www.extremeexperts.com/Net/A...sinASPNET2.aspx
>
Hope this helps.
>
Sincerely,
>
Steven Cheng
>
Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
>
>
>
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Thanks for your reply Dave,

there is no built-in means to make the entire ASP.NET site JIT compiled,
you may need to programmatically visit all those pages so as to make them
JIT compiled. For the "merge all pages and control outputs to a single
assembly", I dont think this is the cause of the slow performance.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Hi Dave,

Any further progress on this issue? Please feel free to post here if there
is anything else we can help.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Performance questions

Hi;
Got a couple of performance questions.
1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
hits are fast. Why?
2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
ideas why it's slow?
3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
details at all. How can I get that in there too?
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htmHi Dave,
Regarding on the question you mentioned, here are some of my understanding:
1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
hits are fast. Why?
==========================
How did you precompile your web application, full mode(non-updatable) or
partial mode(updatable)? For partial precompile, the ASP.NET runtime still
need to do a slim precompile to merge the aspx and the class in the
pregenerated assembly. Also, even if you fully precompile the site, you
should still take the JIT compile into account.
2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
ideas why it's slow?
==============================
This seems a bit unexpected. Can you repro the behavior through a very
simple forms authentication secured web project?
3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
details at all. How can I get that in there too?
============================
NET framework 2.0 does provide means for you to do redirection between
"Diagnostics Trace" and ASP.NET Trace. Here is a good web article mentioned
the steps to do so:
#Tracing Enhancements in ASP.NET 2.0
http://www.extremeexperts.com/Net/A...sinASPNET2.aspx
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Steven Cheng
Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
========================================
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most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
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Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
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========================================
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Hi;
1) I use WebDeployment and have it set to "NOT allow to be updatable",
"merge all pages and control outputs to a single assembly", APTCA. Should
this take time to run the first time? And if so, is there a way in IIS to
tell it to load and JIT compile everything?
2) I will try to create a sample.
3) perfect - thanks
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> Regarding on the question you mentioned, here are some of my understanding
:
> 1) My app is pre-compiled but when I bounce IIS and then go to a page for
> the first time, it takes a couple of seconds to get that page. Subsequent
> hits are fast. Why?
> ==========================
> How did you precompile your web application, full mode(non-updatable) or
> partial mode(updatable)? For partial precompile, the ASP.NET runtime still
> need to do a slim precompile to merge the aspx and the class in the
> pregenerated assembly. Also, even if you fully precompile the site, you
> should still take the JIT compile into account.
>
> 2) Even after hitting all pages involved, if I logout and then go to login
> again - it takes 5 - 10 seconds. The login page uses the standard login
> control and the ASP.NET membership classes so it's not my code at all. Any
> ideas why it's slow?
> ==============================
> This seems a bit unexpected. Can you repro the behavior through a very
> simple forms authentication secured web project?
>
> 3) I put Trace.Write("enter FindAllGlobal"); in my non ASP code so it's
> using System.Diagnostics.Trace. This does not show up in the trace.axd
> details at all. How can I get that in there too?
> ============================
> .NET framework 2.0 does provide means for you to do redirection between
> "Diagnostics Trace" and ASP.NET Trace. Here is a good web article mentione
d
> the steps to do so:
> #Tracing Enhancements in ASP.NET 2.0
> l]
> ications.
>
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> where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
> Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
> up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
> professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
> most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
> that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
> project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
> handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
> Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
> [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/support/default.aspx." target="_blank">http://www.extremeexperts.com/Net/A...t/default.aspx.
> ========================================
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Thanks for your reply Dave,
there is no built-in means to make the entire ASP.NET site JIT compiled,
you may need to programmatically visit all those pages so as to make them
JIT compiled. For the "merge all pages and control outputs to a single
assembly", I dont think this is the cause of the slow performance.
Sincerely,
Steven Cheng
Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Hi Dave,
Any further progress on this issue? Please feel free to post here if there
is anything else we can help.
Sincerely,
Steven Cheng
Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

performance: IIS - Sqlserver locks influence??

Hi there,
We have a web application handling thousands of requests per seconds reading
sql server data which is heavily updated.
We are generally experiencing no performance problems.
On some occasions we get an increase of the traffic of about 15% for short
periods. In this case we observe something really strange: our webserver
CPU goes from about 40% usage to 100%, with memory usage keeping low (about
50%). We see at the same time that the number of sqlserver locks increases.
Are these 2 behaviours correlated? ..or any other ideas?
We are using w2k and sql2K
Thanks for your help
Alex"Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
news:O2QUzVZxEHA.1564@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi there,
> We have a web application handling thousands of requests per seconds
> reading sql server data which is heavily updated.
> We are generally experiencing no performance problems.
> On some occasions we get an increase of the traffic of about 15% for short
> periods. In this case we observe something really strange: our webserver
> CPU goes from about 40% usage to 100%, with memory usage keeping low
> (about 50%). We see at the same time that the number of sqlserver locks
> increases.
> Are these 2 behaviours correlated? ..or any other ideas?
The traffic increases by 15%. The traffic passes through IIS. The
application in IIS calls SQL Server.
If I'm right, then this suggests that the behaviors correlate.
John Saunders
I know it's correlated but my question was to know if the increase number of
locks had cpu usage consequences on IIS.
We already noticed that the number of web requests being processed has huge
impact on webservers CPUs.
I'd like to know if the same apply with SQL locks(e.g. ADO.NET objects need
to wait more resulting in an increase of page processing time, etc...) as
the SQL server CPUs are almost not impacted by the increased traffic.
Thanks
Alex
"John Saunders" <johnwsaundersiii at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eIvurHbxEHA.3024@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
> news:O2QUzVZxEHA.1564@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> The traffic increases by 15%. The traffic passes through IIS. The
> application in IIS calls SQL Server.
> If I'm right, then this suggests that the behaviors correlate.
> John Saunders
>
"Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
news:uQxGoecxEHA.4028@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I know it's correlated but my question was to know if the increase number
>of locks had cpu usage consequences on IIS.
> We already noticed that the number of web requests being processed has
> huge impact on webservers CPUs.
> I'd like to know if the same apply with SQL locks(e.g. ADO.NET objects
> need to wait more resulting in an increase of page processing time,
> etc...) as the SQL server CPUs are almost not impacted by the increased
> traffic.
Alex, I am certainly not an expert on IIS performance, but I can't think why
it would in any way be affected by SQL Server locks.
John
"John Saunders" <johnwsaundersiii at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uEOK$PgxEHA.908@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> "Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
> news:uQxGoecxEHA.4028@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Alex, I am certainly not an expert on IIS performance, but I can't think
> why it would in any way be affected by SQL Server locks.
>
The relationship is probably indirect. Sql Server locks are a directly
related to the volume of work being done by Sql Server. Locks don't
indicate that clients are waiting, just that they are doing stuff. Reading
tables generates shared locks, updating tables generates update or exclusive
locks, etc. So the more work, the more locks.
David

performance: IIS - Sqlserver locks influence??

Hi there,

We have a web application handling thousands of requests per seconds reading
sql server data which is heavily updated.
We are generally experiencing no performance problems.
On some occasions we get an increase of the traffic of about 15% for short
periods. In this case we observe something really strange: our webserver
CPU goes from about 40% usage to 100%, with memory usage keeping low (about
50%). We see at the same time that the number of sqlserver locks increases.
Are these 2 behaviours correlated? ..or any other ideas?
We are using w2k and sql2K

Thanks for your help

Alex"Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
news:O2QUzVZxEHA.1564@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi there,
> We have a web application handling thousands of requests per seconds
> reading sql server data which is heavily updated.
> We are generally experiencing no performance problems.
> On some occasions we get an increase of the traffic of about 15% for short
> periods. In this case we observe something really strange: our webserver
> CPU goes from about 40% usage to 100%, with memory usage keeping low
> (about 50%). We see at the same time that the number of sqlserver locks
> increases.
> Are these 2 behaviours correlated? ..or any other ideas?

The traffic increases by 15%. The traffic passes through IIS. The
application in IIS calls SQL Server.

If I'm right, then this suggests that the behaviors correlate.

John Saunders
I know it's correlated but my question was to know if the increase number of
locks had cpu usage consequences on IIS.

We already noticed that the number of web requests being processed has huge
impact on webservers CPUs.
I'd like to know if the same apply with SQL locks(e.g. ADO.NET objects need
to wait more resulting in an increase of page processing time, etc...) as
the SQL server CPUs are almost not impacted by the increased traffic.
Thanks

Alex

"John Saunders" <johnwsaundersiii at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eIvurHbxEHA.3024@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
> news:O2QUzVZxEHA.1564@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> We have a web application handling thousands of requests per seconds
>> reading sql server data which is heavily updated.
>> We are generally experiencing no performance problems.
>> On some occasions we get an increase of the traffic of about 15% for
>> short periods. In this case we observe something really strange: our
>> webserver CPU goes from about 40% usage to 100%, with memory usage
>> keeping low (about 50%). We see at the same time that the number of
>> sqlserver locks increases.
>> Are these 2 behaviours correlated? ..or any other ideas?
> The traffic increases by 15%. The traffic passes through IIS. The
> application in IIS calls SQL Server.
> If I'm right, then this suggests that the behaviors correlate.
> John Saunders
"Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
news:uQxGoecxEHA.4028@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I know it's correlated but my question was to know if the increase number
>of locks had cpu usage consequences on IIS.
> We already noticed that the number of web requests being processed has
> huge impact on webservers CPUs.
> I'd like to know if the same apply with SQL locks(e.g. ADO.NET objects
> need to wait more resulting in an increase of page processing time,
> etc...) as the SQL server CPUs are almost not impacted by the increased
> traffic.

Alex, I am certainly not an expert on IIS performance, but I can't think why
it would in any way be affected by SQL Server locks.

John
"John Saunders" <johnwsaundersiii at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uEOK$PgxEHA.908@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> "Alex Callea" <alex.callea@.sellys.com> wrote in message
> news:uQxGoecxEHA.4028@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>I know it's correlated but my question was to know if the increase number
>>of locks had cpu usage consequences on IIS.
>>
>> We already noticed that the number of web requests being processed has
>> huge impact on webservers CPUs.
>> I'd like to know if the same apply with SQL locks(e.g. ADO.NET objects
>> need to wait more resulting in an increase of page processing time,
>> etc...) as the SQL server CPUs are almost not impacted by the increased
>> traffic.
> Alex, I am certainly not an expert on IIS performance, but I can't think
> why it would in any way be affected by SQL Server locks.

The relationship is probably indirect. Sql Server locks are a directly
related to the volume of work being done by Sql Server. Locks don't
indicate that clients are waiting, just that they are doing stuff. Reading
tables generates shared locks, updating tables generates update or exclusive
locks, etc. So the more work, the more locks.

David

Performing issues

Hi guys,
What is faster to IIS, a Code Behind file or a In Code aspx file?
When we call for a Class like dim f as new MyClass if it's a big class,
will it take longer to run? or the IIS only access the funcions that we call
inside the class when we call it?
Thanks
Bruno Alexandre
Kbenhavn, Danmark
"a portuguese in Denmark"An ASPX file is parsed at run-time to MSIL, which is then compiled to a
native image. A DLL is MSIL, so it takes fewer operations to compile it to a
native image. Of course, caching mechanisms make most of that moot, as the
resources are no continually being re-compiled.
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
If the Truth hurts, wear it.
"Bruno Alexandre" <bruno.in.dk@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uL60f$E6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi guys,
> What is faster to IIS, a Code Behind file or a In Code aspx file?
> When we call for a Class like dim f as new MyClass if it's a big class,
> will it take longer to run? or the IIS only access the funcions that we
> call inside the class when we call it?
> Thanks
> --
> Bruno Alexandre
> Kbenhavn, Danmark
> "a portuguese in Denmark"
>
>
Hi Kevin,
but I'm not talking about DLL, only VB files (classes) and having the code
in the same page or separete one.
I dont thing that the IIS will take my hole site and put it in diferent
DLL's (there is an option in framework 2.0 that we can do that into one DLL)
but this is not my point.
Bruno Alexandre
Kbenhavn, Danmark
"a portuguese in Denmark"
"Kevin Spencer" <uce@.ftc.gov> escreveu na mensagem
news:uhr08DH6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> An ASPX file is parsed at run-time to MSIL, which is then compiled to a
> native image. A DLL is MSIL, so it takes fewer operations to compile it to
> a native image. Of course, caching mechanisms make most of that moot, as
> the resources are no continually being re-compiled.
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Software Composer
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
> If the Truth hurts, wear it.
> "Bruno Alexandre" <bruno.in.dk@.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uL60f$E6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>

Performing issues

Hi guys,

What is faster to IIS, a Code Behind file or a In Code aspx file?

When we call for a Class like dim f as new MyClass if it's a big class,
will it take longer to run? or the IIS only access the funcions that we call
inside the class when we call it?

Thanks

--

Bruno Alexandre
Kbenhavn, Danmark

"a portuguese in Denmark"An ASPX file is parsed at run-time to MSIL, which is then compiled to a
native image. A DLL is MSIL, so it takes fewer operations to compile it to a
native image. Of course, caching mechanisms make most of that moot, as the
resources are no continually being re-compiled.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
If the Truth hurts, wear it.

"Bruno Alexandre" <bruno.in.dk@.gmail.comwrote in message
news:uL60f$E6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi guys,
>
What is faster to IIS, a Code Behind file or a In Code aspx file?
>
When we call for a Class like dim f as new MyClass if it's a big class,
will it take longer to run? or the IIS only access the funcions that we
call inside the class when we call it?
>
Thanks
>
--
>
Bruno Alexandre
Kbenhavn, Danmark
>
"a portuguese in Denmark"
>
>
>
>

Hi Kevin,

but I'm not talking about DLL, only VB files (classes) and having the code
in the same page or separete one.
I dont thing that the IIS will take my hole site and put it in diferent
DLL's (there is an option in framework 2.0 that we can do that into one DLL)
but this is not my point.

--

Bruno Alexandre
Kbenhavn, Danmark

"a portuguese in Denmark"

"Kevin Spencer" <uce@.ftc.govescreveu na mensagem
news:uhr08DH6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

An ASPX file is parsed at run-time to MSIL, which is then compiled to a
native image. A DLL is MSIL, so it takes fewer operations to compile it to
a native image. Of course, caching mechanisms make most of that moot, as
the resources are no continually being re-compiled.
>
--
HTH,
>
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
If the Truth hurts, wear it.
>
"Bruno Alexandre" <bruno.in.dk@.gmail.comwrote in message
news:uL60f$E6GHA.3508@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>Hi guys,
>>
>What is faster to IIS, a Code Behind file or a In Code aspx file?
>>
>When we call for a Class like dim f as new MyClass if it's a big class,
>will it take longer to run? or the IIS only access the funcions that we
>call inside the class when we call it?
>>
>Thanks
>>
>--
>>
>Bruno Alexandre
>Kbenhavn, Danmark
>>
>"a portuguese in Denmark"
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>

Permission for bin folder: ASP.NET app deployed under a web site

Hi All,
I have an asp.net application and I have deployed it under a Web Site. I am
using IIS 6.0.
However, while running the application it fails saying that can't monitor
file changes under bin directory and access is denied.
I have given read permission to ASPNET and Impersonation account. However,
it still fails.
If I give permission to "everyone" to read the bin folder it works fine.
How do I find out which account the application is trying to use to read the
bin directory or which account needs the read permission?
Any pointer or help.
Thanks in advance
SachinHi,
Try NETWORK SERVICE account
Teemu Keiski
ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider
Finland, EU
http://blogs.aspadvice.com/joteke
"Sachin" <annonymous@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OaczMSczFHA.3188@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
> I have an asp.net application and I have deployed it under a Web Site. I
> am
> using IIS 6.0.
> However, while running the application it fails saying that can't monitor
> file changes under bin directory and access is denied.
> I have given read permission to ASPNET and Impersonation account. However,
> it still fails.
> If I give permission to "everyone" to read the bin folder it works fine.
> How do I find out which account the application is trying to use to read
> the
> bin directory or which account needs the read permission?
> Any pointer or help.
> Thanks in advance
> Sachin
>
To add to Teemu's advice
WIN 2003 uses servername\Network service acct
Patrick
"Teemu Keiski" <joteke@.aspalliance.com> wrote in message
news:ezNsr5czFHA.2212@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Try NETWORK SERVICE account
> --
> Teemu Keiski
> ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider
> Finland, EU
> http://blogs.aspadvice.com/joteke
> "Sachin" <annonymous@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OaczMSczFHA.3188@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
monitor
However,
>
Patrick.O.Ige wrote:
> To add to Teemu's advice
> WIN 2003 uses servername\Network service acct
> Patrick
>
However, it's important to note that IIS 6 is hard-coded to check
permissions for the IIS_WPG group of which NETWORK SERVICE is a member.
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
FrontPage add-ins for FrontPage 2000 - 2003

Permission for bin folder: ASP.NET app deployed under a web site

Hi All,

I have an asp.net application and I have deployed it under a Web Site. I am
using IIS 6.0.

However, while running the application it fails saying that can't monitor
file changes under bin directory and access is denied.

I have given read permission to ASPNET and Impersonation account. However,
it still fails.

If I give permission to "everyone" to read the bin folder it works fine.

How do I find out which account the application is trying to use to read the
bin directory or which account needs the read permission?

Any pointer or help.

Thanks in advance
SachinHi,

Try NETWORK SERVICE account

--
Teemu Keiski
ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider
Finland, EU
http://blogs.aspadvice.com/joteke

"Sachin" <annonymous@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OaczMSczFHA.3188@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
> I have an asp.net application and I have deployed it under a Web Site. I
> am
> using IIS 6.0.
> However, while running the application it fails saying that can't monitor
> file changes under bin directory and access is denied.
> I have given read permission to ASPNET and Impersonation account. However,
> it still fails.
> If I give permission to "everyone" to read the bin folder it works fine.
> How do I find out which account the application is trying to use to read
> the
> bin directory or which account needs the read permission?
> Any pointer or help.
> Thanks in advance
> Sachin
To add to Teemu's advice
WIN 2003 uses servername\Network service acct
Patrick

"Teemu Keiski" <joteke@.aspalliance.com> wrote in message
news:ezNsr5czFHA.2212@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Try NETWORK SERVICE account
> --
> Teemu Keiski
> ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider
> Finland, EU
> http://blogs.aspadvice.com/joteke
> "Sachin" <annonymous@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OaczMSczFHA.3188@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Hi All,
> > I have an asp.net application and I have deployed it under a Web Site. I
> > am
> > using IIS 6.0.
> > However, while running the application it fails saying that can't
monitor
> > file changes under bin directory and access is denied.
> > I have given read permission to ASPNET and Impersonation account.
However,
> > it still fails.
> > If I give permission to "everyone" to read the bin folder it works fine.
> > How do I find out which account the application is trying to use to read
> > the
> > bin directory or which account needs the read permission?
> > Any pointer or help.
> > Thanks in advance
> > Sachin
Patrick.O.Ige wrote:
> To add to Teemu's advice
> WIN 2003 uses servername\Network service acct
> Patrick

However, it's important to note that IIS 6 is hard-coded to check
permissions for the IIS_WPG group of which NETWORK SERVICE is a member.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com

FrontPage add-ins for FrontPage 2000 - 2003

Permissions

By default, IIS denies ASP.NET scripts to write files on the disc and create
folders. What should i do to permit ASP.NET scripts writing, for example, i
n C:\test.txt ?You need to give write (and possibly Change) permissions to the ASPNET
account.
The best way is to do it securely as outline here:
How To Create a Custom Account to Run ASP.NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e...asp?frame=true
"michael" <michael.1jbh5v@.mail.codecomments.com> wrote in message
news:michael.1jbh5v@.mail.codecomments.com...
> By default, IIS denies ASP.NET scripts to write files on the disc and
> create folders. What should i do to permit ASP.NET scripts writing, for
> example, in C:\test.txt ?
>
> --
> michael
> ---
> Posted via http://www.codecomments.com
> ---
>

Permissions

By default, IIS denies ASP.NET scripts to write files on the disc and
create folders. What should i do to permit ASP.NET scripts writing, for
example, in C:\test.txt ?

--
michael
----------------------
Posted via http://www.codecomments.com
----------------------You need to give write (and possibly Change) permissions to the ASPNET
account.

The best way is to do it securely as outline here:

How To Create a Custom Account to Run ASP.NET

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e...asp?frame=true

"michael" <michael.1jbh5v@.mail.codecomments.com> wrote in message
news:michael.1jbh5v@.mail.codecomments.com...
> By default, IIS denies ASP.NET scripts to write files on the disc and
> create folders. What should i do to permit ASP.NET scripts writing, for
> example, in C:\test.txt ?
>
> --
> michael
> ----------------------
> Posted via http://www.codecomments.com
> ----------------------

Permissions to Sql2005 database from IIS

Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
ASP.Net website.
My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
like users to be able to do.
I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
How should i setup permissions on my database?
At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
database, as everything is owned by dbo.
Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
another user in my Sql database?IM new to SQL 2005 as well, but Im working through the implementation and
Maintainence book and it expplicitly tells you not to user the Network
Service account because it has too many privilages. It reccomends setting up
a new account to manage each instance.
"Nemisis" <darrens2005@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166537606.961583.187640@.a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
> I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
> Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
> ASP.Net website.
> My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
> the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
> I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
> many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
> like users to be able to do.
> I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
> How should i setup permissions on my database?
> At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
> running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
> for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
> database, as everything is owned by dbo.
> Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
> another user in my Sql database?
>
Hi nemesis.
Is you database server & Web Server located on the same machine?
If yes
You could create a local (technical) user account & have the application
run under an application pool with the technical user account.
On the DB level , just create the login & user account and grant execute
on the stored procedure.
If No
instead of a local (technical) user account have a domain account made.
the rest of the setup is just the same.
As a side note , never have any application account part of db_owner ,
this means the app. could just drop all tables in your DB .
Yvesl
Nemisis wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
> Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
> I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
> Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
> ASP.Net website.
> My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
> the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
> I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
> many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
> like users to be able to do.
> I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
> How should i setup permissions on my database?
> At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
> running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
> for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
> database, as everything is owned by dbo.
> Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
> another user in my Sql database?
> Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
> I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
> Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
> ASP.Net website.
> My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
> the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
> I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
> many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
> like users to be able to do.
> I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
> How should i setup permissions on my database?
> At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
> running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
> for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
> database, as everything is owned by dbo.
> Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
> another user in my Sql database?
>
Thanks alot for this, my database server and web server are on the same
machine.
I will try to setup a account and set the correct permission first
thing in the morning.
The new account that i will setup, does it need access to the tables?
Because before when i tried to execute a stored procedure, it said that
select permissions had to be set on the table as well. Is this still
the case'
Should the new account be apart of a role in the database? Or should i
created my own?
Thanks again for your help so far.
Hi,
Assuming you're only using stored procedure your new user (lets call him
LOCALSERVER\TEST) does not need any access to the tables.
It needs EXECUTE right to the stored procedures.
here's the script to grant access.
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[AddSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[GetSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
For Role Membership, well it all depends on what your requirements are.
For more informed help you should probably ask this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
however my 2c:
Since your Database will be accessed only through 1 user account( the
one that your web app. runs under) I don't think it's necessary to
create any Role.
YvesL
Nemisis wrote:
> Thanks alot for this, my database server and web server are on the same
> machine.
> I will try to setup a account and set the correct permission first
> thing in the morning.
> The new account that i will setup, does it need access to the tables?
> Because before when i tried to execute a stored procedure, it said that
> select permissions had to be set on the table as well. Is this still
> the case'
> Should the new account be apart of a role in the database? Or should i
> created my own?
> Thanks again for your help so far.
>
Yves. L. wrote:
> Hi,
> Assuming you're only using stored procedure your new user (lets call him
> LOCALSERVER\TEST) does not need any access to the tables.
> It needs EXECUTE right to the stored procedures.
> here's the script to grant access.
> GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[AddSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
> GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[GetSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
>
> For Role Membership, well it all depends on what your requirements are.
> For more informed help you should probably ask this newsgroup:
> microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> however my 2=80c:
> Since your Database will be accessed only through 1 user account( the
> one that your web app. runs under) I don't think it's necessary to
> create any Role.
> YvesL
Yves,
What about if i need to run dynamic Sql? Will this still be ok? I
hear that there are some problems when running dynamic Sql?
>
> Yves,
> What about if i need to run dynamic Sql? Will this still be ok? I
> hear that there are some problems when running dynamic Sql?
>
I suppose that you mean SQL statements in code ?
Then you'll need to set the proper permission on the necessary tables,
views, etc,... or make your user part of the db_datawriter or
db_datareader roles (see the docs for reference).
Anyway, you wrote earlier that you have SP'for all data access, so you
should be fine .
Regards,
YvesL
Yes the users only execute stored procedures, but within some of the
stored procedures, i execute dynamic Sql, using the execute_sql system
stored procedure.
I was told that it was not a good idea to make a user apart of the
db_owner role, is making them a part of the db_datareader and
db_datawriter role ok?
I am using Sql2005, so does this still apply? I didnt know if i should
do something different for Sql2005?
Thanks
> Yes the users only execute stored procedures, but within some of the
> stored procedures, i execute dynamic Sql, using the execute_sql system
> stored procedure.
I don't know about that, you'll have to try it out or ask the sqlserver
newsgroup.

> I was told that it was not a good idea to make a user apart of the
> db_owner role, is making them a part of the db_datareader and
> db_datawriter role ok?
Have a look at
ms-help://MS.VSCC.v80/MS.VSIPCC.v80/MS.SQLSVR.v9.en/udb9/html/7f3fa5f6-6b50-
43bb-9047-1544ade55e39.htm
it describes what access users get for those database roles
Regards,
YvesL

Permissions to Sql2005 database from IIS

Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.

I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
ASP.Net website.

My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
the website, which uses Forms Authentication.

I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
like users to be able to do.

I do not want to use Sql Authentication.

How should i setup permissions on my database?

At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
database, as everything is owned by dbo.

Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
another user in my Sql database?IM new to SQL 2005 as well, but Im working through the implementation and
Maintainence book and it expplicitly tells you not to user the Network
Service account because it has too many privilages. It reccomends setting up
a new account to manage each instance.

"Nemisis" <darrens2005@.hotmail.comwrote in message
news:1166537606.961583.187640@.a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
>
I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
ASP.Net website.
>
My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
>
I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
like users to be able to do.
>
I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
>
How should i setup permissions on my database?
>
At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
database, as everything is owned by dbo.
>
Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
another user in my Sql database?
>

Hi nemesis.

Is you database server & Web Server located on the same machine?

If yes
You could create a local (technical) user account & have the application
run under an application pool with the technical user account.
On the DB level , just create the login & user account and grant execute
on the stored procedure.

If No
instead of a local (technical) user account have a domain account made.
the rest of the setup is just the same.

As a side note , never have any application account part of db_owner ,
this means the app. could just drop all tables in your DB .

Yvesl

Nemisis wrote:

Nemisis wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
>
I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
ASP.Net website.
>
My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
>
I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
like users to be able to do.
>
I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
>
How should i setup permissions on my database?
>
At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
database, as everything is owned by dbo.
>
Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
another user in my Sql database?
>
Hi everyone, hope your all looking forward to xmas.
>
I am setting up a Sql2005 database on a Windows Server, running Windows
Server 2003. The database is going to be accessed via users using an
ASP.Net website.
>
My website is running the normal IUSR account. And users must login to
the website, which uses Forms Authentication.
>
I do not want to give users access directly to tables, so have created
many stored procedures which will carry out the operations that i would
like users to be able to do.
>
I do not want to use Sql Authentication.
>
How should i setup permissions on my database?
>
At the moment i have set up the NETWORK SERVICE account (account for
running asp.net) on my server to be a role member of the db_owner group
for the database. This allows the user access to all the object in my
database, as everything is owned by dbo.
>
Is this correct? This doesnt sound right to me? Do i have to setup
another user in my Sql database?
>

Thanks alot for this, my database server and web server are on the same
machine.

I will try to setup a account and set the correct permission first
thing in the morning.

The new account that i will setup, does it need access to the tables?
Because before when i tried to execute a stored procedure, it said that
select permissions had to be set on the table as well. Is this still
the case??

Should the new account be apart of a role in the database? Or should i
created my own?

Thanks again for your help so far.
Hi,
Assuming you're only using stored procedure your new user (lets call him
LOCALSERVER\TEST) does not need any access to the tables.
It needs EXECUTE right to the stored procedures.

here's the script to grant access.
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[AddSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[GetSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]

For Role Membership, well it all depends on what your requirements are.
For more informed help you should probably ask this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.sqlserver.server

however my 2c:
Since your Database will be accessed only through 1 user account( the
one that your web app. runs under) I don't think it's necessary to
create any Role.

YvesL

Nemisis wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Thanks alot for this, my database server and web server are on the same
machine.
>
I will try to setup a account and set the correct permission first
thing in the morning.
>
The new account that i will setup, does it need access to the tables?
Because before when i tried to execute a stored procedure, it said that
select permissions had to be set on the table as well. Is this still
the case??
>
Should the new account be apart of a role in the database? Or should i
created my own?
>
Thanks again for your help so far.
>

Yves. L. wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi,
Assuming you're only using stored procedure your new user (lets call him
LOCALSERVER\TEST) does not need any access to the tables.
It needs EXECUTE right to the stored procedures.
>
here's the script to grant access.
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[AddSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
GRANT EXECUTE ON [dbo].[GetSp] TO [LOCALSERVER\TEST]
>
>
>
For Role Membership, well it all depends on what your requirements are.
For more informed help you should probably ask this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
>
however my 2c:
Since your Database will be accessed only through 1 user account( the
one that your web app. runs under) I don't think it's necessary to
create any Role.
>
YvesL

Yves,

What about if i need to run dynamic Sql? Will this still be ok? I
hear that there are some problems when running dynamic Sql?
>

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Yves,
>
What about if i need to run dynamic Sql? Will this still be ok? I
hear that there are some problems when running dynamic Sql?
>

I suppose that you mean SQL statements in code ?
Then you'll need to set the proper permission on the necessary tables,
views, etc,... or make your user part of the db_datawriter or
db_datareader roles (see the docs for reference).

Anyway, you wrote earlier that you have SP'for all data access, so you
should be fine .

--
Regards,
YvesL
Yes the users only execute stored procedures, but within some of the
stored procedures, i execute dynamic Sql, using the execute_sql system
stored procedure.

I was told that it was not a good idea to make a user apart of the
db_owner role, is making them a part of the db_datareader and
db_datawriter role ok?

I am using Sql2005, so does this still apply? I didnt know if i should
do something different for Sql2005?

Thanks
Yes the users only execute stored procedures, but within some of the

Quote:

Originally Posted by

stored procedures, i execute dynamic Sql, using the execute_sql system
stored procedure.

I don't know about that, you'll have to try it out or ask the sqlserver
newsgroup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>
I was told that it was not a good idea to make a user apart of the
db_owner role, is making them a part of the db_datareader and
db_datawriter role ok?

Have a look at
ms-help://MS.VSCC.v80/MS.VSIPCC.v80/MS.SQLSVR.v9.en/udb9/html/7f3fa5f6-6b50-43bb-9047-1544ade55e39.htm

it describes what access users get for those database roles

--
Regards,
YvesL
Hope u all had a merry xmas, and happy new year too you all.

I have followed the steps in the article
http://www.sommarskog.se/grantperm.html.

1. Create a certificate
2. Create a user associated with that certificate
3. Grant that user SELECT rights on the table
4. Sign the procedure with the certificate EACH TIME you have changed
the procedure

Encase you dont know, i have had to create this certificate as i am
executing dynamic Sql within some of my stored procedures, and i dont
want to give the user any permissions to the tables.

I am a lil confused, as i have to create a user (above) to associate
with the certificate, and i have to give that user permissions to the
table directly. Would it not have been easier just to give the main
user (web application IIS user, NETWORK SERVICE) direct permissions to
the tables, instead of setting another user up?

Could someone please clarify why this is the case and the benefits of
it, i have to also inform other people why we are going to set the
application up like this.

Thanks

Permissions wizard

Hi all
on my local IIS (Windows XP) I can
Website -> Right click -> All Tasks -> Permissions Wizard
And select my settings from the secure web site template.
On my test server Windows Server 2003, I cand find this option. Would anyone
be able to tell me how to install this template or manually set the
permissions the same as a secure web site
thanks in advance
AndyI know when you create a web site in windows server 2003 you can uncheck the
allow unominous access.
Hope that helps you out.
Good Luck
DWS
"AAJ" wrote:

> Hi all
> on my local IIS (Windows XP) I can
> Website -> Right click -> All Tasks -> Permissions Wizard
> And select my settings from the secure web site template.
> On my test server Windows Server 2003, I cand find this option. Would anyo
ne
> be able to tell me how to install this template or manually set the
> permissions the same as a secure web site
> thanks in advance
> Andy
>
>

Permissions wizard

Hi all

on my local IIS (Windows XP) I can

Website -> Right click -> All Tasks -> Permissions Wizard

And select my settings from the secure web site template.

On my test server Windows Server 2003, I cand find this option. Would anyone
be able to tell me how to install this template or manually set the
permissions the same as a secure web site

thanks in advance

AndyI know when you create a web site in windows server 2003 you can uncheck the
allow unominous access.

Hope that helps you out.

Good Luck
DWS

"AAJ" wrote:

> Hi all
> on my local IIS (Windows XP) I can
> Website -> Right click -> All Tasks -> Permissions Wizard
> And select my settings from the secure web site template.
> On my test server Windows Server 2003, I cand find this option. Would anyone
> be able to tell me how to install this template or manually set the
> permissions the same as a secure web site
> thanks in advance
> Andy
>